Friday, December 21, 2007

28 Декабря 1943 года начался геноцид братского калмыцкого народа


28 Декабря 1943 года - 64 года назад - были "наказаны" калмыки, монголоязычные собратья бурят. Весь народ, включая младенцев и стариков, был сослан в Сибирь. На гибель.

Современные калмыки почти не отличаются менталитетом от бурят. Тем не менее национальное самосознание у них, конечно, будет повыше, чем у бурят - они выбрали своего калмыцкого президента и они не называют себя калмык-монголами, как некоторые буряты. Они просто калмыки, без приставок и суффиксов.

Желтая ленточка - знак солидарности с братским калмыцким народом.

Ничто не забыто, никто не забыт...

http://www.buryatia.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=14977

Еще бы и братский калмыцкий народ был солидарен с братским бурятским народом, когда нашу Усть Орду уничтожали...

4 comments:

Life said...

Спасибо огромное.

Kalmyk Mongol said...

Спасибо огромное.
Ho........
your- Тем не менее национальное самосознание у них, конечно, будет повыше, чем у бурят - они выбрали своего калмыцкого президента и они не называют себя калмык-монголами, как некоторые буряты. Они просто калмыки, без приставок и суффиксов.
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This one is most short-sighted moronic sentence I have ever seen. God may forgive you for your loss- loss of your root, loss of your mother-language. I have some questions to you
1.- What is your reason or problem if you call yourself Buryat-Mongol? May you prefer to be Buryat-Russian, Buryat-Tungus. you don't have many options. Only these 3 options you have.
Word/Name Buryat stand alone only for your master-Russians who created fictitious self-serving identity for you. Nobody else know it. If you say/ introduce yourself only Buryat. It will take long time for you to explain to your friends. To make yourself clear quickly, you still need to use that adjective/suffix "MONGOL". Then at last your friends will understand WHO you are REALLY. They will say -Now we see you are Mongol.

Maybe you don't know BURYAT LANGUAGE. That is why you are ignorant enough to post such sentences. If you know your mother language 100%, then you'll know yourself- WHO U R. First learn your language, then post your "smart" conclusions. Also if you don't know your mother language, in next life, your shaman ancestors will not recognise you in Heaven as one their own.

By the way:- for you information Kalmyks are Mongols too, Western Mongols. so there are Kalmyk Mongols, in short Kalmyks. Check out The Kalmyk Brotherhood Society (KBS) of Philadelphia which is an organization founded by and for the Kalmyk Mongol people living in and around the Philadelphia area.
http://kalmykphilly.org/index_files/About.htm

Only you-newcomers infected with inferiority from Soviet Union, kalmyk and buryats alike are so brainwashed, deny your own root- Mongol identity. Russians laugh at you for your loss of Mongol root. Those who deny their root-Mongol language and cultures are like little monkeys lost in jungle

Minority from Russia said...

Thanks for your comment though. It's a very common argument and, well, I suggest you to read more carefully. I actually never say that Buryats are not of Mongolian origin...It's a very important question of our own Buryat indentity. You are not aware of this and never were aware. If you don't mind, I'll post your post and talk about my Buryat identity refering to a very interesting book by a scholar from Oxford Uradu Erdene Bulag "Nationalizm and hybridity in Mongolia".
Thank you again for your comment.

Kalmyk Mongol said...

I don't mind. if you post my comment and talk about your buryat identity issue.

I read you post carefully. Your way of expression gives an idea that( as you basically said ) Level of self -national identification of Buryats is less than Kalmyks, simply by saying that some buryats do used to call themselves as Buryat-Mongols as opposed to just Kalmyk. Are you saying that because some Buryats use word "Mongol", they became lesser than Kalmyks in self-identitification issue.

Actually this whole self-identitfication issue is ridiculously stupid monkey business. It is better take back what you've lost, than trying re-invent the wheel. What you have lost is your Mongol identity. That is why you have problems of assimilation, political dis-unity among themselves and loss of mother language.
Inner Mongolians, Khalkh Mongolians did not lost their Mongol identity, that is why they have no problem like you have.
But unfortunately there are many Mankurts/ Ignorants among Kalmyks and Buryats who do make conclusions like you did.
As for Uradu Bulag's "Nationalizm and hybridity in Mongolia". I have read 2 of his books already. He has his own minority complex as you have. I am not really fond of his books, he has always a same pattern in his books, always put things in struggle. Basically he argues about whose father was coolest, although we have common ancestors and common language.
Khalkhas VS Buryats
Buryats VS Hamnigans
Oirats VS Khalkhas
Tumeds VS Daurs
Kazakhs VS Mongols
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By doing do so, he minimizes danger of China and Russia, Mongols VS Chinese, Mongols VS Russian relationship.